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Poster: Evioine Date: Sep 14, 2007 7:27am
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Checking PD status....

I've read since posting that guy called Wade Williams owns all the recordings of certain early 50s sci-fi show like space patrol and tales of tomorrow, and I think the acquirable episodes are ones they have been released on video cassettes and dvd, and as they can be separately copyrighted, that might finding public recordings a problem, although i've also heard that a company that releases sets of 3 episodes of pd tv shows for a dollar released a set of 3 episodes of tales of tomorrow , so those episodes at least might be available.

At any rate, I've been thinking that a thread like this (maybe this thread), could be developed further, where people list tv shows between from 1950-1963 period which, from checking a episode list against the copyright office web records, look as though they might be, at least partially in the public domain. Then, if somebody looks through the thread, he might spot an episode he's interested in uploading. He could then doublecheck that episode on copyright.gov/records ( as shows can sometimes be listed under variants of series names, so that the original searcher may not have found certain registrations. For example, most episodes of The Dick Van Dyke Show are listed as part of "The Dick VanDyke Show")
Assuming that no copyright registration for that specific episode is found, that episode could then be uploaded.Thus, the thread would be a guide to help people to see what show might be public domain.
Every month or two, a new thread could be started, with the believed status of shows previously mentioned compiled into a single list and then people can continue to add new suspects to the new thread.
From 1950-1963 isn't that long a period, there was probably less than a couple dozen us tv shows of each genres that lasted a full season or more during that period, so it would be very possible (I think at any rate) to put together a fairly comprehensive list in the medium term.

Also, I been looking at some more 50s/early 60s show's status today, if anyone wants to check these to see if im mistaken;
Fully Public Domain:
The Mask
Philip Marlowe
Man With a Camera
Cool and Lam (This is only a pilot)

Partially Public Domain:
Peter Gunn (season 3 episode 15)
Mike Hammer (only season 1)
The Thin Man (before season 2 episode 11)
Checkmate (season 1 episodes 14-15, season 3 episode 10)
Shotgun Slade (season 1 episodes 12, 23, 25-39)
The Dick van Dyke Show ( season 2 episodes 1,4,5,9/season 3 episodes 17,30. Only checked seasons 1-3)



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Poster: Kevin VandeWettering Date: Dec 3, 2007 11:45pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Checking PD status....

Don't forget about the music. One Step Beyond has some that is in BMIs catalog. That means a performance right if you show it publicly.

The composer is Harry Lubin and the registered works are title tracks called "Fear" : (BMI numbers below)

FEAR END TITLE 3138416
FEAR END TITLE 3200255
FEAR MAIN TITLE 3200244
FEAR MAIN TITLE AND THEME 3138389
FEAR THEME 3138408

and WIERD 3520647

Even in the public domain films here there seems to be some music that is still copyrighted. Look up the music in "Jack and the Beanstalk" for an example.

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Poster: blusteringbilbo Date: Jan 31, 2008 7:24am
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Checking PD status....

Without knowing all the details, it is likely wade williams does not own the copyright to all the episodes of Space Patrol.

The only way he would is if he has renewed the copyrights original Space Patrol episodes (and owns the rights to do so).

Merely having purchased a bunch of copies of the material merely means he potentially owns the copyrights in HIS specific kinescope (or whatever material) if he chooses to reproduce them. So if alternative copies of the episodes can be dug up, there should be no issue in posting them, regardless of what this williams gentleman owns (unless he has renewed the copyright in a timely fashion, and had the rights to do so).

IMNAL

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Poster: Robin_1990 Date: Nov 20, 2007 5:58pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Checking PD status....

I think I'm replying to the wrong post, But I've got a message for Evioine. "Captain Video" IS public domain, But almost all the episodes were destroyed after the DuMont Network went bankrupt. Sad but true.